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This is audacious. They are not in interfer with religious freedoms. This is the main reason many people came to the colonies is the first place. My mother's family, the Maupins came here for that very reason in 1700.
What part of treason does the Congress not understand?
Permalink Reply by JeansBrother on February 3, 2012 at 3:53pm This raises two very difficult Constitutional questions: 1) Is this policy a violation of the “establishment clause” of the 1st Amendment? 2) Is this policy a violation of the “free exercise” clause of the 1st Amendment?
The correct answers will revolve around one or more of these questions.
1. Is a hospital an organization whose purpose is primarily religious?
2. Does the policy apply to AN establishment of religion or does it apply to ALL establishments of religion as well as non-religious establishments.
3. Does the requirement to provide a service reasonably violate the free exercise of religion (or morality of the individual) who is required to provide the service.
4. Was the creation of a hospital a religious act?
There are more questions that could be asked, but you get the point.
Since a ruling on this matter will apply to all religions and religious organizations and their relationships with government policies, the matter must be decided very carefully. Of particular concern with some is the religious freedom that may be afforded Islam and the people who hold to its “religious” beliefs.
Permalink Reply by justfolk on February 5, 2012 at 4:16pm No matter what the State eventually will decide each person must act on their conscious as to what is right, as I hope the Church, her organizations will do.
Catholic schools do very well without Federal or State funds and we are not obliged, indeed have refused to institute state and federal requirements to teach their curriculum for many of the PC indoctrinations that public ( government ) schools are mandated to teach.
I hope that the Catholic Church will not bow to this evil remembering that "a little leaven, leavens the whole".
Permalink Reply by JeansBrother on February 5, 2012 at 7:14pm Excellent points. True liberty is independence from the mandates of secularism.
Permalink Reply by justfolk on February 5, 2012 at 3:56pm As a Catholic and educator is a Catholic school I firmly hold that Catholic Charities, Catholic Hospitals and the like should first refuse Federal or state funds...we can take care of our own with God's help.
Secondly Catholic organizations affected by this, need to stand their ground and NOT capitulate to these mandates that violate the practice of our faith and try to force us into what we hold a sin...in the case of abortion etc...Murder.
I would say to the United States Bishops that to sell ones soul for a few Federal/State $$$ or to avoid Censorship, Sanctions or Persecution is cowardly and unworthy of the calling of Christ.
Permalink Reply by pacontreras on February 6, 2012 at 9:20pm I have to say I am curious if this applies to Muslim Institutions. Are they void of this as they are the taxes on Obama care because it is against Sharia Law (Their Religion) It seems to me that Socialist are going after Christians in this way because it will be an easy way for them to control the Christian population. Muslims already out birth almost every other religion 8 to 1. They will sustain their society as ours dies! I don't see how this helps the socialists in that the Muslim People will not be controled that easily, way less easily then their Christian counterparts. Just wondering what your thoughts are on this.
And as to what Justfolk wrote below, I thing it is dispicable that our Catholic Bishops would lower themselves to this. God bows to no one.
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